The strange thing about this plant was there was no discernable peduncles; it was as if the pedicel came directly out of the leaf node. After looking Hoya exilis up online and checking photos, I knew that this was not that Hoya, but what was it? I immediately put in an email to Julie Kennedy who has been so helpful to me throughout my Hoya growing career. She took my information and went to all of her sources. Finally we got the answer from Miros and Susanne; the plant now had a name: Hoya apoda. Below the large bud of H. apoda: