Hoya carmelae is a Hoya that I have messed around with now for about eight years without so much as a peduncle being formed. Now it won’t be long, and I will have flowered this Hoya from my Hall of Shame List that I made a couple of years ago. It also helps ease the pain of having the buds blast on my H. desvoeuxensis a couple of months ago. Much more on all of this after the blooms open! Here are some buds in the meantime from two different peduncles: