I received a well rooted four leaf specimen that arrived growing in Pon. I knew that I was not going to continue using this as a substrate as I have had terrible luck using this stuff in the past. After a month, I transitioned it over to mostly coconut husk chips with a little pumice thrown in. It was up-potted to a 4 inch clear orchid pot so I could keep close tabs on the roots. Below the almost ready to open buds of Hoya surisana: