Thailand is a gamble when ordering Hoyas. Don’t ever go into it without that mantra in mind; if you can’t afford to lose your investment, or take a chance on dead arrivals, do not order. There are some great vendors here in the U.S. including Joni at SRQ Hoyas, who is in my mind the best of any of them. If however you just can’t find, or can’t wait to get the species you are looking for, and are willing to take a big gamble, there is the Thai grower option – They can really grow Hoyas. The problem usually comes from the transit and customs obstacles. You just never know how they will come through. These cuttings arrived yesterday, and I feel like I won the lottery.